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July 17, 2005
Harry Potter Spoiler
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince spoiler below.
::edited to add -looks like someone else isn't too thrilled with this particular book either::
I have to honestly say that I did not like this book as much as the others. I didn't like the way it was written. Somehow, it seems like it was written by someone else. Rowling's style seems to have changed. Another thing I didn't like was the use of stronger language - I was a bit surprised when I came across the word slut while reading this book. I know that it isn't a BAD word but a lot of young kids (9-12) are reading this book. Also, a lot more romance (aka "snogging") in this book. I guess the hormone fairy showed up at Hogwarts. Harry and Ginny? Please, cut me a break. ::edited to add:: I forgot all about the throwing of "the finger" until Susan mentioned it in her comment below. Again, was that really necessary?
I totally didn't see Snap as the Half-Blood Prince. Rowling really surprised me on that one. I knew he was obviously going to be main antagonist but I was pleasantly surprised to see him take such a supportive role in turning back to the Dark Lord. I like Snape - he's such a wad.
As for Dumbledore dying, well, there was enough foreshadowing about that throughout the entire story. I particularly did not like the scene with him and Harry down at the lake. Major creep factor to read about Dumbledore writhing, screaming and crying on the ground. Perhaps it was the five previous novels that made him seem immortal?
When I was discussing the book with Husband, he suggested to me that it sounded like Rowling took a page from George Lucas and what happened with Star Wars. She needed to go back and write the how and why Vader... err .. Voldemort became the way he is today. So, in that case, is The Half-Blood Price is Episode 2 and 3?
I did like the fact that Luna was back and even commentating at one of the Quidditch matches. She is quite an enjoyable character and I can't wait to read about her in the next book. Plus, I am also looking forward to Bill and Phlegm's Fleur's wedding.
Overall - I think I was a bit disappointed in this book. It wasn't what I expected at all.
Posted by Cate at July 17, 2005 02:11 AM
Comments
Now see Kate, I totally disagree with you. It was written in her style. She's just maturing the storyline.
I agree with you though on one thing. There was a lot of throwing of "that" finger. I thought it seemed out of place, but what do I know about 16-year-olds anymore?
I thought the pensieve memory moments were important in filling in the blanks and tying the books together. We obviously learned a lot of things that will be important in the last book.
I didn't figure out Snape was the Half-Prince either. I think he is still loyal to Dumbledore (remember the fighting in the forest?).
Now, who is RAB? Is this someone we already know or a completely new character?
Posted by: Susan at July 17, 2005 10:54 AM
I feel the same way. I wasn't as pleased with this book as the others; it didn't live up to the hype. I am also not sure about Snape. Dumbledore was asking for him, so maybe it was prearranged that he would kill him if he saw him in agony, esp. with that dead arm he already had. I don't know, that is just my theory.....
Posted by: cindy at July 18, 2005 12:12 AM
Meg and I loved it! I thought Snape was the HBP as soon as Harry started using the book and got great results in Potions. I also think that Dumbledore had arranged for Snape to kill him. And Snape tried to back out of it during the conversation that Hagrid overheard, when Snape told Dumbledore that he "didn't want to do it anymore". What else- oh I think that Lily has some connection to Snape as well, since she was also "brilliant" at potions. Just theories.
The writing style seemed just fine to me, and I didn't mind the finger gestures or the other more "mature" themes. (My 8 year old seemed to handle them well.) I think Harry's attitude was much better in this book than in OOTP. What actually sort of bothered me were the Inferi... that's a theme that's been done and overdone in SO many other fantasy books... the bad guy *always* has an "Army of the Dead". Oh well.
Posted by: mekanamom at July 18, 2005 12:48 PM
I really think I know who RAB is, but it's just a guess. How do you figure Snape isn't hbp? How is he loyal?
Posted by: Allison at July 18, 2005 04:54 PM
Oh thoroughly agreed. The whole thing seemed formulaic and a set up for book seven.
Posted by: kthnxbye at July 18, 2005 06:03 PM
RAB=Regulus Alphard Black. UK edition has Alphard as an uncle. Regulus would have the info to find the Horcruxes, as he was a Death Eater who betrayed. Maybe? Also, remember Book 5, pendant in 12 Grimmauld couldn't be opened? could Regulus have stolen it by then? Wouldn't his betrayal explained why he would be dead? Does this make sense?
Posted by: Matt McEwing at July 19, 2005 01:16 AM
People keep saying that Regulus, Sirius's younger brother, would be RAB. I seriosly doubt that due to Sirius's description of his brother in the last book, however skewed it was.
I don't think snape really turned evil that dumbledore really did plan this ahead so as to "Redeem" Snape under Voldemort's eyes, he knew that Voldemort was incredibly insecure and did not trust any one. Also he knew that Voldemort felt that there was no worse thing than death and wouldnt understand the idea of sacrificing ones own life for a good cause. So the idea that Snape killing dumbledore was in Dumbledore's plans would most likely not have occured to the dark lord. That way snape would be able to go deeper underground and be of greater use. I dont think though, that anyone else knows of this plan, maybe he is help protect harry and eventually guide him to the final battle with Thomad Riddle.
Posted by: loverofself at July 19, 2005 12:49 PM
I am in the US and my version does not have the word "slut" in it. or if it does i didnt see it. what page was that on?
I actually really liked this book, as Susan said about Rowling's style has changed since she is dealing with kids that are in adolescence. I think her dealing with issues of teenagers is great.
Posted by: Amsu at July 19, 2005 05:21 PM
I'm thinking Snape is still of use as well. When Snape and Draco were running away from Harry on the grounds after Dumbledore was killed, SNape deflected all of Harry's hexes, true. But didn't you see what he was telling Harry? "Blocked again and again until you learn to keep your mouth shut and your mind closed, Potter!" Snape never cursed Harry with any of the unforgivable curses, and when Harry was hexed, Snape stopped it claiming that the Dark Lord was to finish him off, not any one of them. Snape was helping Harry in that chase. In order to get anywhere further, Harry has to concentrate on his Occlumency and learn to think his spells not say them.
Other than that I just don't think I want to give up on Snape just yet. I'm still under the idea that he somehwat liked Harry's mother, and wouldn't have wanted to give Voldemort any information that would have killed Lily-- even if she did marry the man he despised.
It is also quite possible that Dumbledore and Snape had this arranged as someone had said earlier, I'm just finding it difficult to see where the revulsion and hatred on Snape's face came from when he killed the headmaster.
Posted by: Danni at July 20, 2005 11:48 AM
Firstly, i read the book quite fast, and probably missed a lot. Yet, I have come to the same conclusion as many others, that R.A.B. is Regulus Alphard Black. See, the letter in the locket says, To the dark lord. This seems to illuminate the fact that the R.A.B. was once a follower. Also the fact that he knew he was going to die. Regulus was killed because he got in to far w/ Voldermort, wouldnt seem that he could expect that. Also it seems that J.k.R. introduces a character before she needs it. Such as Peter P. Secondly, How is the HBP Snape? wasnt the book 50 yrs old, also I thought it was Snape's mother for her last name was Prine. Or was the book a hand me down in which snape wrote in.... plz explain
Posted by: Jessica at July 20, 2005 07:11 PM
I mean Snapes mothers name was PRINCE*****
Posted by: Jessica at July 20, 2005 07:13 PM
k guys i got it i kinda skipped the paragrah where he admitts it
Posted by: Jessica at July 20, 2005 08:51 PM
I think her style matured since the characters matured. I was surprised that this book had more teen-agey stuff - because I'd forgotten everyone's growing up!! But it does fit the characters age. I loved reading this - it was like seeing old friends again :-)
I totally didn't get that Snape was the HBP. But that's because I didn't remember that Jo told everyone the HBP wasn't Voldemort so I was thinking it was him. But yes - I totally think Snape loved Lily and I also think that Snape had to kill Dumbledore and it was pre-arranged. At first I didn't really believe he was dead. But I guess he is :-( That was sad.
Ok was I the only one surprised about Ginny and Harry?? It's been a looooooong time since I read OOTP so I had forgotten a lot of things.
I'm wondering if Neville and Luna will hook up? I love her -- I think she is such a breath of fresh air and I also think something more will come of her in the final book.
Posted by: Analei at July 22, 2005 01:46 AM
BTW - I was really glad to see Fleur's reaction to Bill. I wondered if it was real love and I'm glad it is. I'm looking forward to seeing what the contamination did to Bill and how it will effect him.
Posted by: Analei at July 22, 2005 01:48 AM
"I'm just finding it difficult to see where the revulsion and hatred on Snape's face came from when he killed the headmaster."
I think it can be explained by this passage:
"Hating himself, repulsed by what he was doing, Harry forced the goblet back toward Dumbledore's mouth and tipped it, so that Dumbledore drank the remainder of the potion inside."
The words "hatred and repulsion/revulsion" are used by both characters when they hurt Dumbledore. I'm thinking Harry probably looked pretty much the same way Snape did.
Posted by: mekanamom at July 22, 2005 01:58 PM
poo and ass
Posted by: circe da best at July 29, 2005 12:27 PM
Can anyone tell me exactly where it says Regulus' middle name is A.
Posted by: Anita at August 8, 2005 04:14 PM